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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffchops11 Date: Oct 31, 2008 4:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: GD & archive.org in Rolling Stone

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the new Rolling Stone mentions the GD show from the 13th and the archive.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/24012581/still_truckin_the_dead_reunite_in_pennsylvania

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Oct 31, 2008 7:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive.org in Rolling Stone

This is a very nice and uplifting article to read about the Dead. I hope they regularly tour going forward.

And I also hope they get regenerate the sound they had in 1974. :-)

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 1, 2008 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

agree, best news in a while


not to re-open the sordid mess, but i can't help but wonder if this is a case of gross misquotation (?)
"They take advantage of you," says Kreutzmann. "They give your music away for free, and then they sell advertising."

other than free promotion for the participating bands, or spam, (which is promptly removed), has anyone seen any commercial advertising displayed by LMA on this site at anytime?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 1, 2008 6:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

I don't know if the article is accurate at all (I love the "archives.org website", which shows how much attention went into it) - but it was rather distressing when it implied that these guys were "barely on speaking terms" due to their fighting over whether Dead shows should be allowed on the Archive!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 1, 2008 7:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

"I read it in Rolling Stone."
"Oh, it's GOTTA be true."

btw, have to get around to that piece you did on Viola Lee someday...bookmarked for future ref...outstanding!

for now i'll cut to the chase, any thoughts on why it was only performed 31x? (that we know about)

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Nov 1, 2008 8:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: new topic....VLB again.....

Viola Lee.....well, it would be better to ask the band why they dropped it, if anyone could even remember....I don't know.
Worth remembering though, that they must have played it all the time in '67 - we'd have many more performances if that year had been fully taped. It seems that they first dropped it in mid-68, and then brought it back for a brief spell a year later in April '69. In his liner notes to Fallout, Lesh suggests that they played it more at some missing shows in summer '69. But then it drops from the setlists again.
So another way to ask the question is, why did they bring it back in 1970? They probably played it at a bunch of missing shows that year, too. I think they were making an effort to put more rockin' grooves into their shows as 1969 ended, and they reintroduced older covers like Dancing in the Streets and NFA.
It's really no surprise they stopped doing it by 1971 - a lot of the big jamming songs were abandoned in the shift from '70 to '71 - Easy Wind, Dancing in the Streets, Alligator>Caution, and Man's World all disappeared as well as Viola Lee; NFA shriveled up for about a year after GDTRFB was introduced; and Dark Star and the Cryptical reprise became much rarer. In exchange, a couple other tunes like the Other One and Good Lovin' became more stretched-out.
It's all just a process of change - they didn't want to stand still.....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 1, 2008 2:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

has anyone seen any commercial advertising displayed by LMA on this site at anytime?

*snort* Never, which I'm guessing is about as often as Mr. Kreutzmann has been to this site. Or maybe his recollection is a bit hazy after 3 years now.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2008-11-01 21:21:48

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Poster: spacedface Date: Nov 1, 2008 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

He was probably talking about other sites that had leveraged The Archive. Even the ones without ads, aside the LMA, are gone now.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 1, 2008 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

ah, but he is here every day in spirit, which is all we can ask of any great artist

"Is this love...or just, confusion." - (J. Hendrix)

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 1, 2008 2:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

Hey Diana - I had the same thought as I read that interview.

I wish the band would log-in and witness the community which has sprung from the availability of these recordings.

There is no doubt in my mind that archive.org has brought 1000's of fans BACK to GD music.....and many of those 1000's are attending the live performances of the surviving members.

Personally, I had moved on......and now I'm back and more enthusiastic than ever!

Also, having the GD recordings here has given the lesser-known bands @ LMA a larger audience........so in this way, GD helps younger artists make the scene.

I could go on listing the positives.......I'd like to hear the downside from Billy K.

This post was modified by high flow on 2008-11-01 21:38:25

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 1, 2008 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

I wish the band would log-in and witness the community

They might want to hold off until sometime after the election though, huh? ;)

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 3, 2008 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive."com" in advertising business???

There's an election?:)

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Poster: CompSurfahV2 Date: Nov 1, 2008 4:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive.org in Rolling Stone


I hope I can take the liberty to speak for a few... and still wonder why the show was removed from Archive??

~peace~

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Nov 1, 2008 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: GD & archive.org in Rolling Stone

Well, the Allmans were part of that, right? It could be a simple as the Allman Bros never having been OK with online fan exchange so far. (Downloads not OK for here, etree.org or anywhere.)